Myths regarding energy and consciousness

The following is an excerpt from a samvaad (dialogue) session with Acharya Prashant.

Questioner (Q): This world, the material world, obviously works according to the scientific laws which are discovered.

Acharya Prashant (AP): Yes, science is the language of laws of physical nature.

Q: But that, it’s not in conflict with the fact that there is no such thing as matter but that it’s all thoughts?

AP: Then you can say that the laws of physics are the laws of thought.

Q: So, are you agreeing with my statement?

AP: Obviously, it’s just a restatement of the established statement. There is nothing new in it. You are just emphasizing on the mind-matter equation. So, you may as well then call laws of matter as laws of mind and that is alright.

Q: And the thought?

AP: That is mind.

Q: It is my mind?

AP: Not your mind, you are in the mind. You don’t own the mind. You are in the mind.

Q: As what?

AP: As yourself. Whatever you take yourself to be.

Q2: So, we can assume we are conscience, that now we have a body, now we have a mind, right? If he says, “He’s the mind.” You say, “You’re in the mind.” So, we know we have a mind, we know we have a body but we are not, nothing of that, right?

AP: If you have to just assume then any assumption is alright.

Spirituality is not about proceeding with assumptions. It is about seeing what these assumptions are doing to life.

Spirituality is relief from suffering. A life based on assumptions is an invitation to suffering.

And therefore, it is fundamental to test and challenge assumptions.

One may keep tom-tomming, “I am not the body. I am not the body”, the virus still attacks the body. You still pay the doctor. If your assumption and stubborn assertion is helping you honestly get rid of your suffering, then alright. Anything that actually relieves your suffering is wonderful. But if your assumption is just feeding the Ego then what’s the point?