Following is an excerpt from a samvaad (dialogue) session with Acharya Prashant.
Joshu went to the Hermit and asked, “What’s up? What’s up?” The Hermit lifted up his fist and Joshu said, “Water is too shallow to enter here and went away”. Joshu visited the Hermit once again, a few days later and said, “What’s up? What’s up?” The Hermit raised his fist again then Joshu said, “Well given, well taken, well killed, well saved” and he bowed to the Hermit.
Acharya Prashant (AP): Right-living, Wisdom, Spirituality, Zen are all about a non-reactionary way of living. So, Joshu asks the hermit, “What’s up?” He isn’t parlance as indicated. It means, “Have you any Zen?” Now, Zen is not an object. Zen is not a part of ‘duality.’ The answer to the question that asks, Have you any Zen, can neither be ‘yes’ nor ‘no’ as such. When Hermit raises his fist, it is inferior to remaining silent. It comes across as a reaction to Joshu’s question.
The situation is such that Joshu’s question actually becomes a provocation, a stimulus to which the Hermit reacts, this is not really the way of Zen. The question demanded no answer. The question demanded rather the stillness of Zen or the silence of Zen. The question, “Have you any Zen?” is aching to the questions — “Are you God? Is the universe same as or different from it’s source? Are you in God or God is in you? Have you any Zen? Have you any God? Have you the Truth? Have you Love?” All these are questions in the same dimension. To such questions, ordinary answers don’t suffice.
So, upon seeing the response of the Hermit, upon seeing the raised fist of Hermit. Joshu says, “The water is to shallow to enter here.” Zen is still an intellectual thing for you, ‘shallow.’ It has not yet reached your depth. Zen has not yet reached your depth. It has still not yet penetrated your heart. No point talking to you.
You are a man of mind.
You are a man of reactions.
You are a man of patterns.
Who wants to talk to such a man?